playing for the los angeles dodgers and the oakland a's. it's an amazing story which i'm gonna actually produce a film on. the name of his biography is called "out at home." tavis: i got to read that. >> it's very powerful. tavis: what is the -- >> sorry, you high fived and then i went to the high five story. tavis: i'm glad you did. speaking of brave, what's the bravest thing that jamie lee curtis has ever done? >> well, getting sober was the easiest and bravest thing i ever did. i say easiest because, for many, many people, making the declaration is the hardest thing. actually, putting the words in your mouth that you need help is the hurdle that for me was once i crossed that hurdle, the rest of staying sober and being sober and working with sober people was easy. the hardest thing is acknowledging it. for other people, it's the rest of the program that's saying they are -- or having life intervene where they have car accidents or they're arrested or they get their picture in the tabloids because they have a mug shot. i didn't have any o